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The Name of the Rose (thoughts)

July 3, 2008

What's in a Name? Challenge

What's in a Name? Challenge

A few years ago, The Name of the Rose was my introduction to Umberto Eco (appropriate, since it was his first novel). Since then, I’ve read and enjoyed The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loanna and Foucoult’s Pendulem, but I decided to revisit the original as my ‘plant’ selection for the What’s in a Name? challenge.

I found it just as delightful as the first time round (although I remembered how the murderer was killing his victims, I didn’t remember who he was or what his motive could be), but I’d also like to explain how I read an Eco novel. I do not go into one expecting to understand every single sentence, or even every single idea. Instead, I expect Eco to create his own reality, and I’m just along for the ride. So I don’t freak out if something confuses me; I just keep reading, and usually it becomes clear. I was reading reviews over at Amazon, and the negative ones were all like ‘all of the people who say they liked it are lying to be pretentious, because there’s no way they understood it.’ I think those people have missed the point; this is a novel, a separate world, not a philosophical treatise. Sure, there’s a lot of medieval philosophy in it, but those discussions are to better illuminate the characters and the setting. And while I remember my high school Latin well enough to get the gist of the various Latin passages, I certainly didn’t know every word. So, if you go into this book expecting to know exactly what’s going on at every moment, you will probably hate it. If, on the other hand, you’d love to imagine life from the perspective of a medieval monk, and read about a juicy mystery in the meantime, I think you’ll enjoy it.

In the above paragraph, I assumed you’d heard of The Name of the Rose, but just in case you haven’t, I’ll briefly explain what to expect. The majority of the book is the memoir of Adso, a Benedictine monk who was a novice in 1327 attached to Brother William, a British Franciscan. Italy, and the Catholic world, is in turmoil; the Pope and secular kings are clashing, and the Franciscans have been accused of a major heresy. William has been touring through Italy for political purposes (since we hear the story from Adso’s perspective, we don’t know precisely what mission William had), and he and Adso end up at an Italian Benedictine monastery renouned for the largest library in Christendom. Right before their arrival, a monk had been found dead, and since William is a reknowned logician and investigator, the abbot tells him to figure out the murderer, preferably before an inquisitor sent by the Pope shows up in a few days time. It quickly becomes clear that the murder revolves around the library, which is laid out in a secret manner only the Librarian, his assistant, and the abbot know. Others may only request and read any of its many books with permission, which has been granted less and less often recently.

Since Eco wrote from the perspective of a medieval monk, the murder mystery does not always have front and center; if you go in expecting a simple book, you’ll probably end up angry (for a well-written and straightforward mystery series about medieval monks, check out Ellis Peters’ Brother Caedfel books instead, beginning with A Morbid Taste for Bones). The monks often discuss theological points (i.e.: laughter, poverty, sex), William often lectures Adso on the principles of logic, and when the inquisitor and his companions eventually arrive, there’s a whole lot of mess concerning theology and, more importantly, power that breaks out. If you don’t care about any of this, I’d recommend you skip the book. But since even as a child I imagined being a medieval monk (seriously; never wanted to be a nun though), I really enjoyed all of the discussions; Eco is a medievalist by trade, so he’s at home in such a world. In his postscript, Eco refers to the first hundred pages as a kind of “penance or initiation,” so if you’re unsure about whether this is a book for you, try out the beginning. If it’s not for you, you’ll know pretty quickly, but do try to give it a fair chance. While the tone might turn you off at first, once you settle into it you might find yourself enjoying it!

At its heart, I think The Name of the Rose is a cry for freedom of knowledge and the exchange of ideas; that so many wonderful books are locked away in a library built as a maze is at the root of most of the abbey’s problems. The debates about heresy are also fundamentally about whether the Church will allow people of competing viewpoints to debate, or if one, official interpretation will be supported, if necessary, by murder. William, Eco’s primary ‘lecture’ vehicle since he’s the older, experienced monk that the narrator looks up and often turns to for advice, obviously believes that even if an idea is wrong, it deserves its place and ought to be talked about. And this is a lesson as important in the twenty-first century as in the fourteenth.

Have you read The Name of the Rose, or any other of Eco’s fiction? What did you think?

19 Comments leave one →
  1. July 3, 2008 7:01 pm

    What really blew me away when I read this book was the incredible sense of place. I loved the first 100 pages myself.

    I did think he got a little too authentic sometimes in reproducing the leisurely pace of the medieval world, but it was still quite the journey to another time and place.

  2. July 3, 2008 8:07 pm

    I loved it when I read it years ago, and I should read it again. I enjoyed Foucault’s Pendulum, but not nearly as much as The Name of the Rose. I started Baudolino but didn’t care for it and never finished.

  3. July 4, 2008 2:45 am

    I’ve read How to Voyage with a Salmon and Travels in Hyperreality, both non-fiction, strangely enough I’ve never read his fiction. I did see the film version of The Name of the Rose earlier this year and it made me want to read the book, which I plan to do sometime this summer.

  4. July 4, 2008 8:44 am

    The Name of the Rose.. book is much beter then film, you will see.

  5. July 4, 2008 9:07 am

    I read this book about five years ago and really, really enjoyed it. I agree with your assessment, that you have to go into it not expecting a simple book. The Name of the Rose simply isn’t a straightforward murder mystery–and that’s what I loved about it. Thanks for the review!

  6. July 4, 2008 12:36 pm

    I totally agree with your assessment re: reading an Eco book. Heck, I don’t even expect to know every word he uses for that matter :)

    I’ve read this one just once and Foucault’s Pendulum at least twice. Although I can say I enjoyed them both, The Name of the Rose is probably more compelling because it takes a skillful writer to transport its readers back in them and Eco managed to convince me of medieval life inside a monastery not to mention the horrific murder and its reasons. Gee, maybe I really need to reread it except that I can’t because my copy was eaten by termites :)

    I also enjoyed reading How to Travel with Salmon but that book is basically a collection of essays which are mostly humorous and insightful as well.

  7. July 4, 2008 8:33 pm

    I read The Name of the Rose years ago, and I loved it. In fact I think it was one of the books I gave as presents that year! So your review was delightful and brings back memories of the book for me! I’ve been thinking that it’s time to reread it, and I think I will find what you did – I can remember who did it, but now why or the method. And, I did NOT understand most of the Latin, but like you, I read on, figuring I would understand it in the end. And I loved that sense of being pulled along and learning at the same time, like the main character is too. Thanks for the good review, Eva!

  8. July 5, 2008 6:39 am

    Eco is one of my favorite authors, and I think you captured exactly how to read him. I suppose a person could take the time to look up everything and study it, but I don’t think that’s necessary, as you stated, to understand the world of the book. For me, he is a great scholar and writer – something I admire greatly.

  9. July 5, 2008 10:02 am

    I really liked this book but it’s been so many years since I read it I can barely remember anything of it. What a shame. I’ve tried a few other Eco books but just haven’t had any luck with them.

  10. July 5, 2008 11:16 am

    I love this book, Eco blows me away every time I read him, there are so many ideas packed into the stories – it’s like a whirlwind. I agree with you completely about how to read him, just go along for the ride and pick up what you can rather than expect to understand everything instantly. I love all the things I learn from his books, the history of heresy (which is a fascinating topic) is what I remember most from this one.

  11. July 5, 2008 3:51 pm

    I haven’t read Eco, yet, but I’ve got The Name of the Rose. It was probably a mistake sticking it in the middle of my classic keepers. I’d forgotten it was there!

  12. July 5, 2008 5:00 pm

    This is one of those books I tried reading when I was young and stupid, and I totally didn’t give it a chance. Thank you for the encouraging words and thoughtful review. It’s definitely more of an interesting premise to me now that I have some life under my belt.

  13. July 6, 2008 12:50 pm

    I actually started with Foucault’s Pendulum. Not understanding it was half the fun, as I recall. My brother and I debated parts of it over the years and had lots of fun arguing about what it all meant.

    I also enjoyed Name of the Rose and it probably is a more accessible book.

    I listened to The Island of the Day Before read by Tim Curry. It may have been an abridged version, but it was lots of fun and very easy to follow.

  14. July 6, 2008 3:44 pm

    “if you go in expecting a simple book, you’ll probably end up angry”

    I don’t think Umberto Eco has ever written a ‘simple’ book, has he?!

    I have only read Foucault’s Pendulum, but I read it the same way you do. I don’t expect (or desire) to understand everything–although I do occassionally look a specific reference up–but that doesn’t stop me from enjoying the wonderful story. I think the only reason I haven’t read The Name of the Rose yet is because my copy is a bit old and yellowed, and the pages are a bit stiff. I really should get around to reading it!

  15. July 7, 2008 9:00 am

    I loved Name of the Rose, but didn’t really like The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loanna at all. It’s not the book’s fault at all. I was just expecting something more along the lines of the Name of the Rose. I guess I should have read the blurb on the cover a little more closely. :)

  16. July 7, 2008 4:01 pm

    Haven’t read it but I do own it. He came highly recommended by someone…unfortunately, since I don’t read as much or as fast as you, I don’t know when I’ll get around to it. :-(

  17. July 8, 2008 1:48 am

    I first saw the movie when I was in highschool, we actually went there as a surprise on our last regular school day before summer holidays (yeah, my highschool was kinda cool ;-) ). I enjoyed it a lot, but didn’t get to read the book until many years later. I remember I enjoyed the book as well. Time for a reread, I guess!

  18. July 9, 2008 3:18 am

    Janet, that is a very good point: the sense of place. :)

    JenClair, I agree: my favourite is The Name of the Rose. :)

    Verbivore, maybe I should try out some of his nonfiction! I didn’t know they made a movie of The Name of the Rose.

    Dejan, I don’t plan on watching the movie any time soon. ;)

    Katherine, glad you enjoyed my reivew! :)

    Lightheaded, bad termites! lol I agree-The Name of the Rose was more compelling. It was almost like time travelling.

    Susan, glad you read it the same I do!

    Andi, thanks-I’m glad you agree. :) That whole book about how to understand The Name of the Rose just seems like overkill to me!

    Iliana, that’s why I started a book blog, because my memory’s bad too! lol

    Eloise, heresy is definitely fascinating. :)

    Nancy, lol. I’ve forgotten about books too. ;)

    Andi, see, when I was young, I was pretentious. hehe So that’s why I read it in the first place. But now I just read it for enjoyment. :D

    C.B., I can imagine lots of great debates out of Foucoult’s Pendulum! I’ll have to look into The Island of the Day Before. :)

    Alisia, I don’t think he has-he’s not a simple kind of author!! And I’m with you on how a not-so-nice physical copy of a book can postpone reading it.

    Lisa, yeah: I can see how if you were expecting something like The Name of the Rose, it wouldn’t have worked! I really enjoy language, so that’s what I most remember enjoying in Queen Loanna-that and all the book stuff. :D

    Trish, awww: as soon as I start grad school, I’m sure my reading will drop down quickly. :(

    Myrthe, I didn’t even know there was a movie before a couple of y’all commented on it! Yay for cool high schools, lol.

  19. March 1, 2010 4:49 pm

    I just finished my first read of The Name of the Rose-I really enjoyed your very perceptive review of the novel-in my post just made I linked to your review and went into some of the semiotic theory behind the book-

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